可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#253605講者:Speaker: Stefan HeumannIf I can shift one more, I don’t know how much time you have. I’m very grateful for what you’re sharing with me. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2019-01-04 Conversation with Stefan Heumann