可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#226891講者:Speaker: Patrick ConnollyThere’ll always be some influence, but it’s detoxifying the signaling of the money, what the money-givers want, and separating it from their ability. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-10-10 Conversation with Patrick Connolly