可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#226816講者:Speaker: Audrey TangWhich is why I always say, if there’s transparency without accountability, or if there’s participation, but with no inclusion, then that’s openwashing. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-10-10 Conversation with Patrick Connolly