可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#135416講者:Speaker: Anders FrickAs compared to having this, for say, formal, hierarchical structure. The boss is here, and then going down. Why is it better to have this champion? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2018-01-04 Interview with Anders Frick