I have a microphone here. Okay, we'll come to you afterwards. Two questions. Oh, sorry. Thank you. Kate Chaney. I'm a Community Independent, and in the work that I do in my community, I find there's real value in building consensus and understanding — for people to sit across the table, look each other in the eye and hear each other's perspectives. How do you replicate or deal with that in the digital democratic tools that you're using in Taiwan?
