Greta Thomas

請介紹你自己。告訴我們你是誰。我叫 Greta Thomas。唐鳳，其實你大約在 21 年出現在我們的 podcast 上，我想是，談臺灣作為數位政務委員時對 COVID 的驚人回應。所以謝謝你。我的問題基於今天在場許多人剛看過的紀錄片。當 AI 朝向 AGI 的競賽有點像核武競賽時，你對全球世界、然後也對我們作為個別公民，有什麼實際建議，好確保這一切以建設性的方式演化。

Please introduce yourself. Tell us who you are. My name is Greta Thomas. Audrey, in fact, you actually appeared on our podcast in about '21, I think it was, to talk about Taiwan's amazing response to COVID in your role as digital minister then. So thank you for that. My question is based on a documentary a lot of us here today have just seen. When it comes to the AI race towards AGI, it's kind of like a nuclear-weapon race. What are your practical suggestions for what the global world, but then also us as individual citizens, can do to make sure that this all evolves in a constructive way.

And I’m Greta Thomas, and we’re on a mission to help you achieve your goals.

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Yes, indeed. We’re heading into our eighth week of physical distancing and mostly staying at home right now. I know I’m certainly having my good days and my “not quite as good days.”

It’s a remarkable story. Somewhat of a child prodigy who also had a serious heart condition, Audrey’s childhood was anything but conventional. She dropped out of school at the age of 14 to manage her own education, and at the age of 16 started her first successful software business.

It’s amazing. In this episode, you’ll hear how Audrey’s quick involvement in creating a valuable app has played a key role in Taiwan’s extraordinarily successful management of COVID-19, with the country never having to stop working. How her heart condition as a child means that to this day, Audrey doesn’t experience anger, upset, or even extreme joy.

How, in Taiwan, thanks to calling software coders and engineers program designers, there are significantly more women than men working in the field. Plus, Audrey’s unique ways of seeing arguments from both sides. Without further ado, sit back and enjoy this discussion with the remarkable Audrey Tang. Audrey Tang, welcome to don’t stop us now.

They’re probably the only country in the world, practically. I guess it’s because Taiwan’s been confident that you’ve been able to isolate people who may be contagious, even if they’re asymptomatic. Is that right from the point of view of allowing people just to get on with life?

Incredible.

That is really fascinating that the language…

The youngest ever.

Thank you very much. Take care.

Audrey’s such an interesting and impressive character, isn’t she?

Yeah, no, you’re absolutely right. I loved her work on the coronavirus app. How remarkable that the Taiwanese never had to work from home, and yet they’ve had around 400 people with the virus and just 6 deaths.

Incredible.

Yeah, exactly. I also find it remarkable that she insists on total transparency for her work these days. For example, we had to agree to having the transcript for our entire conversation with her published by her ministry, as she does with every single meeting she has.

Me, too. Well, that’s this episode done and dusted. Stay tuned for another of our new mini-episodes next week, and then a fantastic interview with New York Times Bestselling author and founder and CEO of Acumen, Jacqueline Novogratz.