Channing Lee

跟我們一樣。

唐鳳，我覺得你是臺灣在全世界非常美好的聲音。人們跟你談過之後都會驚嘆：這位天才走到哪裡，都在讓大家看見臺灣可以成為什麼樣子。無論是在世界各地，還是在這個 Expo，我總是很高興見到你。

因為你跟我們一樣，已經連續三年來到這裡。這次有沒有什麼新的東西讓你驚訝？

我記得去年我們錄 podcast 的時候，你說想要有一個珍珠奶茶站。我們這點讓你失望了，所以我先道歉。

而且你也參與了「0 Day」臺灣日。那今年你喜歡什麼？有沒有什麼很酷的東西想聊？

我記得我們之前在臺灣談過這件事，只是我已經記不得是哪一次去了。你覺得這些想法現在被更廣泛採用了嗎？

我記得你在數位發展部時就提出過這個想法：有沒有可能執行規則和規範，而不一定要把每件事都變成傳統法律？

我很欣賞你和加州合作這麼多；我也總是喜歡替我的州說幾句好話，所以我就再利用這個機會提一下。不過我覺得，我們也應該把你帶到南加州談這些。北加州有那些 tech bros，大家可能比較懂；但下次也可以考慮來洛杉磯或橘郡，分享這些想法。

這真的很酷。你越這樣說，我越同意。有時候，人類很難被看作完全沒有偏見。所以如果能讓機器做這類工作，真正呈現雙方，而且你也很難責怪機器，因為它只是在彙整資訊。AI 中介者，我很喜歡這個說法。

Just like us.

Audrey, I think you are a wonderful voice for Taiwan around the world. People speak with you and come away in awe: here is this genius going around showing what Taiwan can be. I always love seeing you, whether around the world or here at the expo.

Last year, when we recorded a podcast, you said you wanted a boba station. We failed on that, so I apologize.

And you joined us at the 0-Day Taiwan Day. What did you like this year? Was there something cool you want to talk about?

I remember talking with you about this in Taiwan, though I have lost track of which trip it was. Do you feel these ideas are now being adopted more widely?

You had raised this idea at the Ministry of Digital Affairs: can some rules and regulations be enforced without turning everything into conventional law?

I appreciate how much work you do with California, and I always like giving my state a shout-out. We should also get you to Southern California. People in Northern California may already get it because of the tech bros, but Los Angeles and Orange County should hear these ideas too.

That is really interesting. The more you describe it, the more I agree. Sometimes it is hard for a human mediator to be seen as fully unbiased. If a machine can present both sides and aggregate the information, it may be harder to dismiss the mediation as partisan.

Because you have been here three years in a row, just like us, was there anything new this year that surprised you?