可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#84086講者:Speaker: Alex HannantIf government turns up everyone will be pointing the finger and wanting something from it. Whereas if an independent party does it, it can reframe those relationships. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2017-08-29 Meeting with Alex Hannant