可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#72194講者:Speaker: Rufus PollockYeah, that second one. No, sorry, the first one. I misread the first list. It’s the first one. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2017-02-08 Rufus Pollock visit