可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#71633講者:Speaker: Eileen WagnerThat’s interesting. I think you said somewhere that, really, to implement this sort of process you need almost a constitutional change. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2017-02-24 Eileen Wagner visit