可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#624113講者:Speaker: InterviewerAttackers seem to have the advantage. How do we protect citizens’ data (e.g., after major breaches like Indonesia’s)? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2025-08-21 Interview with Indo-Pacific Journalists