可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#621225講者:Speaker: Angelina KaryakinaBecause we can relate. I mean, we can understand because we're really a digital state now. But still, this idea is not behind these services. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2025-02-26 Interview with Public Interest Journalism Lab