可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#62052講者:Speaker: Jim PoisantPoint is that if you’re 40, you know what to do to get up to 30 and 20. We didn’t have that measurement before. We didn’t have a sense of, "OK, if I did this, I can move up." 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2017-05-24 WITSA visit