可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#619973講者:Speaker: Audrey TangWhen you say “clean,” I hear “reduce.” But reduction is only one method. We can also “reuse” or “recycle.” 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2025-01-23 Conversation with Shoukei Matsumoto