可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#602467講者:Speaker: John JungAnd so, we advocated it but it wasn't until Covid that people started to realize exactly what people like Suvi was talking about. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2024-03-18 Conversation with ICF