可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#564481講者:Speaker: Audrey TangSo I think this new type of conversation in which we participate as a full democracy is a really creative way out of the traditional more Westphalian point of view. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2023-04-07 Interview with Der Spiegel