可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#548187講者:Speaker: Jeanette HofmannYou would say that for you it made more sense to run a ministry, or to create and run a ministry than have digital affair organized as a commission? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2023-03-13 Conversation with Jeanette Hofmann and Kuo-Wei Wu