可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#517116講者:Speaker: Ben MardellYes. Then, because I've been immersed in this for eight years, I think about play. Play is a place where you build trust. If you're playing with somebody, that's how you build relationships. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2022-08-15 Conversation with Ben Mardell