可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#517036講者:Speaker: Audrey TangThat was quite confusing, because 素養 was not a popular term in pedagogy in Taiwan. It was more like people who were very well-versed in classical reading, [laughs] or whatever. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2022-08-15 Conversation with Ben Mardell