可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#516981講者:Speaker: Ben MardellThe first question is about thinking about your work either as a coder or in government, or in both. How do you go about identifying a problem, and then trying to solve it? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2022-08-15 Conversation with Ben Mardell