可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#505407講者:Speaker: Ian WilliamsIt's essentially a study of the surveillance state and the way it was created and what it adds up to, for an audience who are quite new to that. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2022-05-16 Interview with Ian Williams