可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#497815講者:Speaker: Rob WiblinYeah, it’s interesting. I suppose it’s cooperative, but it also does pose a challenge to the general public, to not merely complain about things being bad.逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2022-01-13 Interview with Rob Wiblin