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講者:Speaker:
The great part about what Audrey does is, there's an outcome to it. It's not citizen engagement or participation for its own sake. The fact that Taiwan has the example of saying we crafted 26 pieces of national legislation, as a result of co-design, is much more powerful frankly than all of these conversations about French citizens assemblies where none of the recommendations go anywhere.