可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#491960講者:Speaker: Marc MarminoThe question is are you familiar with these incidents, and if so are media in essence helping or hurting state efforts in these docs shaming activities? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2021-12-10 Interview with Marc Marmino