可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#488965講者:Speaker: Audrey TangI'm not hold into the hierarchical thinking of the bureaucracy in a government, but neither am I being captured by special interest in the private sector and so on. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2021-10-27 Interview with Emil Elo