可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#471745講者:Speaker: Niklas MaakWe're still doing OK, but we could be much better if the state had been much more in charge of the care system. This became obvious also in other European countries where the system collapsed. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2021-04-08 Interview with Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung