可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#466374講者:Speaker: Victoria Camblin[laughs] Yeah, I would agree. I’m curious, as you’re saying, not a top down method but how to engage outside the rationalists. We get the nihilists on board. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2021-04-01 Conversation with Victoria Camblin