可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#464832講者:Speaker: Matthew ClaudelExactly. I wonder, that seems to be an interesting way of connecting it and legitimizing it, but not necessarily introducing the risk of connecting it to government. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2021-03-22 Conversation with Matthew Claudel and Jayne Eagle