可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#464775講者:Speaker: Matthew ClaudelI wonder now though, as we emerge from the pandemic, we need to give some careful thought to how society is structured. We are restructuring, whether we like it or not. How do we restructure? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2021-03-22 Conversation with Matthew Claudel and Jayne Eagle