可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#460320講者:Speaker: Mat DryhurstI can say as someone who has never had an intimate research interest in the practice of democracy, I felt I was walking in the future. It was such a remarkable experience. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2021-03-03 Interview with Interdependence