可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#447415講者:Speaker: Audrey TangAlso, if the social sector can actually make things fun, there is less pressure for the government to adopt any authoritarian measures. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-12-09 Conversation with Anne Applebaum and Peter Pomerantsev