可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#447407講者:Speaker: Peter PomerantsevThat’s good, then. We’d call that government comms. The comedians and stuff, this is a full-time job, especially like now. Is that the case? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-12-09 Conversation with Anne Applebaum and Peter Pomerantsev