可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#447290講者:Speaker: Audrey TangThat is still traditional political work. What Polis does is essentially scaling out the initial exploratory phase of listening. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-12-09 Conversation with Anne Applebaum and Peter Pomerantsev