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Both. I first go there as an observer, so I can listen to what they have to say and understand it on a deeper intuitive fashion, and then we have a real face-to-face town hall, and then I facilitate and try my best translating their ideas into the idea of bureaucracy, that’s the 12 ministries in Taipei can understand.