可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#431899講者:Speaker: Yngve HolenIt could be simpler. Cool. Is Michael still here or he left? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-09-23 Conversation with Michael Connor and Yngve Holen and Ross Goodwin