可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#431720講者:Speaker: Ross GoodwinI apologize for going too deep about it. I was trying to stay on the surface, but it’s hard. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-09-23 Conversation with Michael Connor and Yngve Holen and Ross Goodwin