可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#431632講者:Speaker: Yngve HolenI see. Two columns, one column. That’s graphic design. It’s just column A… 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-09-23 Conversation with Michael Connor and Yngve Holen and Ross Goodwin