可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#431575講者:Speaker: Yngve HolenOh, it’s so complicated. I never get this right. [laughs] 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-09-23 Conversation with Michael Connor and Yngve Holen and Ross Goodwin