可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#421149講者:Speaker: Matthias SanderI also asked, I can’t say who, two people directly involved how they did it. They couldn’t really explain it to me, or they wouldn’t explain it to me. It was weird answers. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-05-21 Interview with Matthias Sander