可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#420891講者:Speaker: Matthias SanderIt was, I think, Jaclyn Tsai who, can I say, brought you into government or who established the first contact? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-05-21 Interview with Matthias Sander