可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#420841講者:Speaker: Matthias SanderI was more talking to you about the difference between the Taiwanese concept of the wise city versus the Western concept of smart cities, which are often just technology-driven cities. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-05-21 Interview with Matthias Sander