可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#420671講者:Speaker: Matthias SanderThat means if you’re right, and I’m not going to tell you now, we might have another coffee in five minutes or so? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-05-21 Interview with Matthias Sander