可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#420630講者:Speaker: Matthias SanderVery interesting. I’m telling myself I don’t have to take notes because you’re going to publish everything anyway. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-05-21 Interview with Matthias Sander