可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#414896講者:Speaker: Audrey TangWith me as the facilitator, the central government public servants are much more willing to try out innovative ideas, because they get the credit, and I handle the mess. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-07-29 Interview with Christopher Balkaran