可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#405130講者:Speaker: Jamie KongDoes this need to have a fresh revolution in order for these ideas to work, or do you see it being something that could be implemented piecemeal? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-06-27 Interview with Jamie King