可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#405058講者:Speaker: Jamie KongI think what you’re saying is that the deliberate processes that were experimented with then have been incorporated into the DNA of government as it went forward from the revolutionary moment. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-06-27 Interview with Jamie King