可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#403799講者:Speaker: Klaus BardenhagenLet’s say people you don’t reach, where you realize, “I cannot reach through to them.” Who are they? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-06-05 Interview with Klaus Bardenhagen