可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#403672講者:Speaker: Klaus BardenhagenYou don’t feel like the way you do things or the way your life works has changed in any meaningful way since you were pulled into politics? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-06-05 Interview with Klaus Bardenhagen