可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#401648講者:Speaker: Audrey TangYou’re saying that my personal, I don’t know, investment of psychic energy [laughs] or motivation is somewhat necessary for this to be interesting? 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-02-13 Conversation with Gideon Lewis-Kraus