可引用的發言段落Citable transcript turn#401606講者:Speaker: Gideon Lewis-KrausThese things are most interesting when it feels like there has been meaningful conversation, and that there is engagement beyond the immediate transactional quality. 逐字稿導覽Transcript navigation查看前後文View context分享此段Share turn來源逐字稿Source record2020-02-13 Conversation with Gideon Lewis-Kraus